Helvetic E190 near Zurich on Jan 12th 2017, loss of cabin pressure and de-icing

Last Update: October 2, 2017 / 21:39:13 GMT/Zulu time

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Incident Facts

Date of incident
Jan 12, 2017



Flight number

Aircraft Registration

Aircraft Type
Embraer ERJ-190

ICAO Type Designator

A Helvetic Embraer ERJ-190 on behalf of Swiss, registration HB-JVN performing flight LX-1585 from Vienna (Austria) to Zurich (Switzerland) with 45 passengers and 5 crew, was on approach to Zurich maintaining FL200 near Kempten (Germany) when the crew received indication of loss of cabin pressure and initiated a rapid descent. The aircraft lost de-icing systems at the same time prompting the crew to declare emergency. The aircraft continued for a safe landing on Zurich's runway 14 about 23 minutes after the loss of cabin pressure.

Switzerland's SUST rated the occurrence a serious incident and opened an investigation.

On Oct 2nd 2017 the SUST released their final summary report releasing following:

Operational analysis and conclusions

By consulting the MEL and contacting the maintenance company, the flight crew reacted in a manner appropriate to the situation and in the spirit of the aviation operator. However, if a flight is conducted in accordance with the MEL, it is important to be aware of the fact that the lack of redundancy means a single failure can lead to complete failure of key systems (the cabin air conditioning and pressurization system and wing anti-ice system in the present case). The following information in the MEL: “The first dispatch condition on MEL has no icing condition restrictions, since the Cross Bleed Valve operates normally”, may have contributed to the fact that the crew was not sufficiently aware of this.

The fundamental nature of the MEL is that it only mentions the conditions that must be fulfilled in order for a flight to be conducted despite component failures. The decision to conduct a flight in accordance with the MEL, however, is dependent upon other factors, e.g. the weather and other possible technical failures. These can have serious consequences on a flight conducted according to the MEL where the redundancy is already reduced. The decision to execute such a flight is always the responsibility of the commander.

The flight crew reacted to the BLEED 1 LEAK warning message quickly and in a manner appropriate to the situation by immediately requesting a rapid descent and transmitting the urgency message “Pan, Pan”. When the A-I WING FAIL warning message was displayed less than a minute later, the flight crew realized that they also could no longer effect wing anti-icing.

The immediate decision to vacate icing conditions as rapidly as possible and to declare an emergency, was appropriate to the situation and safety-conscious.

The conversations recorded by the cockpit voice recorder indicate that the flight crew monitored the cabin pressure altitude for the duration of the descent and that this information was used in their considerations. It was for this reason that the flight crew initiated a rapid descent rather than an emergency descent. This is evidence that the crew were in control of the situation and acted with foresight. The cabin pressure reached a maximum pressure altitude of 5500 ft.

The SUST reported that during start of the right hand engine the crew received a BLEED 2 FAIL message. The crew worked the related checklist but were unable to resolve the problem and shut the engine down. The crew consulted with maintenance and subsequently decided to perform the flight under minimum list requirements with the bleed air #2 system inoperative.

Following a packs off departure, both packs were activated being supplied via the left hand engine's #1 bleed air system. Following cruise at FL300 the aircraft was descending towards Zurich, when the aircraft encountered icing conditions, the ice detectors reported the formation of ice, the anti-ice systems were engaged. This however shut down the #2 pack much to the surprise of the flight crew. The ice detectors ceased detecting ice. About two minutes later while descending through FL200 a BLEED 1 LEAK message activated which automatically shut down the left hand bleed air system causing the air conditioning and pressurization system as well as the wing anti-ice systems to fail.

The commander transmitted PAN and decided to descend more quickly, the ice detectors activated again. ATC cleared the flight to FL130. The commander started the APU, the wing anti-ice system was reported inoperative, the APU start failed. The commander requested an immediate descent to FL100 and was cleared to FL090. The ice detectors ceased detecting ice. The commander decided to declare Mayday, the flight was cleared to descend to FL060. While descending through FL100 the commander noticed the cabin altitude was at 4800 feet. The crew worked the BLEED 1 LEAK checklist, rejected the ATC offer for the shortest route to landing on runway 28 at Zurich as they no longer expected icing conditions, and processed the wing anti-ice checklist. A second attempt to start the APU was successful. The aircraft was subsequently vectored for an ILS approach to runway 14 and landed without further incident.

The SUST reported following landing maintenance performed bleed air leak tests which found no leaks, the warning that occurred during the flight could not be reproduced. The SUST wrote: "In the present case, the bleed air demand was high, as both engine and wing anti-ice systems were activated. The only bleed air source available was the left engine, which was at flight idle. For this reason, the maintenance company initially concluded, together with the manufacturer, that this high bleed air demand had been met by a high proportion of the hot 9th-stage HP bleed air, which led to the triggering of the BLEED 1 LEAK warning in the vicinity of the pre-cooler and pylon."

As there had been no leaks found additional tests were performed which found cracks in the pre-cooler outlet grill causing the duct seal to become loose.

The SUST reported that Embraer released written information "Precooler exhaust duct seal damage in aircraft post-mod precooler grill PN 191-08757-401 leading to real leakage" to operators. A modified pre-cooler grill became available. The SUST wrote: "A post-mod pre-cooler grill, Part Number (PN) 191-08757-401, was installed on aircraft HBJVN. This was replaced as a result of the findings of the check results. Together with the aircraft manufacturer, the maintenance company came to the unambiguous conclusion that the pre-cooler leak discovered had triggered the BLEED 1 LEAK warning."
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Incident Facts

Date of incident
Jan 12, 2017



Flight number

Aircraft Registration

Aircraft Type
Embraer ERJ-190

ICAO Type Designator

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